Friday, November 23, 2007

Protest with hatredーーーDebito san's tactics revealed ---Japan ura file

Let me make myself clear on this issue. I think that the inconvenience should be cleared for the finger printing system. I don't want to wait for hours to enter Japan, or the U.S. In particular, I don't think there is a need to fingerprint every time people enter the country:if you record once, that'll be sufficient. I reserve the judgment whether the system per se is justified or not:I want to examine pros and cons more carefully.
And I think Gaijin has every right to protest against this system:it helps Japanese to understand the issue, and it helps JG to improve the system.
Now here is Mr.Arudou Debito's way to protest against the finger printing system.
Debito.orgcashe
I am receiving links to angry diatribes on the Fingerprint policy in the Blogosphere. Two that leave a lasting impression:

And here is the one that is problematic.
Oppose Japan’s bid for The Olympics
http://nofj16.googlepages.com/home

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Now I happen to be opposed to Japan's bid for The Olympics.
But just look at the site.
To me it is just a site filled with hatred, lies, half-truth.

"DON'T!"

Don't visit Japan.

Don't do business in Japan.

Japan is a fascist police state, intent on ethnic cleansing & racial purity.

Your crime is being a foreigner!

Welcome to the land of Government sponsored xenophobia!

Meet Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara......Let's meet his personal friends!

These are his extreme right wing neo-nazi supporters longing for a return to the glorious days of the Japanese Imperial Army.

I don't approve ishihara's remarks on Gijin, but the statement above will constitute the crime of libel.

Japan is the sick man of Asia now

Any favour you want, from having a railway stop put in near your house, to having laws passed in the Diet, to having your political opponent eliminated, is available for a price.

D: Dango (Public Works Bid-Rigging) Corrupt politicians get 3% of the bid price as a favour for rigging the bid. Dirty business indeed!

E: Education (Failed System) The Ministry of Institutionalized Incompetence. Students learn "how to be Japanese" at school. That's all! Obedience, marching and conformity!

F: Fuji-san (The World's Biggest Toilet) 900,000 People a day climb Mt. Fuji in July and August. There are no chemical toilets, so all the effluent stays on the mountain surface. Someone who fell last year got tetanus from a scrape on the ice.

G: Gaijin (Foreigners: NOT Japan's Main Problem) Whenever there has been a crime committed the racists shout "foreigners!" The jails are 99% full of Japanese, many on death row for mass-murder. Foreigners are NOT the problem!

H: Health Care (System In Trouble) 55% of the population is over 65 years of age. Hospitals are closing down daily. Doctors move overseas for better working conditions. Drug companies push snake oil medicines. Government is "studying the problem!"

I: Ijime (Bullying At All Levels Of Society) Overseas bullies are punished. Here the bullied are the bad guys. many children commit suicide because of being bullied. Company workers are also bullied by their superiors

M: Money Politics (Government-Wide Corruption) Cash is preferred, as it can't be traced. At least in China they get a bullet behind the ear. In Japan they get promoted.

P: Pornography (All Day Every Day Everywhere) Modesty is given lip-service here by little fuzzied out parts on porn pictures. But magazines depicting violent, S & M acts, shown done to children are sold everywhere, and are read on the trains and buses by salary-men and school children. And we wonder why we have horrible copy-cat crimes against children!

And Debito san was impressed.

You can read on and judge on yourself. But I'll tell you, as far as I know, they are half-truth and mostly lies and filled with hatred. Notice that Debito san knows it.

Asked if these are true statements, Debito san's answer is
NOW TRY TO EMPATHIZE WITH THE NJ FOR A CHANGE–DON’T FALL INTO THE VICTIM COMPLEX ALL OVER AGAIN.


Asked if this is justified,
SOMETIMES I REALLY MISS THE FACT THAT THERE IS A DEARTH OF IRONY IN THIS SOCIETY.


What do you think?

To me, it is just as bad as gaijin Ura file. Debito san used to accuse.
Why the hell he picked up this site which protests against the bid for The Olympics
with lies and half truth and hatred in order to protest against the fingerprinting system is a mystery.
Anyway, gaijin-san, sorry, next time you hear unfounded accusations about gaijin, complain it to Debito-san and he'll tell you----if he is logical, that is,--- " NOW TRY TO EMPATHIZE WITH THE Japanaese FOR A CHANGE–DON’T FALL INTO THE VICTIM COMPLEX ALL OVER AGAIN, DON'T YOU MISS THE FACT THAT THERE IS A DEARTH OF IRONY IN THIS WORLD?."

If he indirectly approves the fabrications to counter unfounded accusation, who will believe his posts?
If he indirectly approves hate-speech to let people empathize with the vicitms, how can he blame somebody who uses hate-speech to gaijin and Debito-san himself.

It is really regrettable, because his basic message was right, and it will make people sad that it seems, ,he is being possessed by the dark force.






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18 comments:

みゆ said...

外国人裏ファイルもひどかったが、このサイトもひどい。なんでdebitoさんはこんなものを乗せて、外国人の気持ちもわかろうとしなさい、なんて言えるのか全然わからない。うそや誹謗合戦でもはじめろということか?
debitoさんも名誉毀損で2ちゃんねるで苦しんだ。2チャンネル管理者を訴えた筈だ。なのに、石原都知事が嫌いのはわかるけど、なんで名誉毀損のサイトを掲載管理しているの?

めぐみ said...

私は外国人指紋押捺に大反対です。
だけど、debitoさんのやり方にも大反対です。
憎しみを増長するだけからです。
こんな憎しみをもった人が人権活動家なんてびっくりしたけど、とても悲しかったです。

いも said...

このオリンピック開催反対と指紋押捺がどうやったらむすぶつくんか?

Thoma said...

I agree with you,
Making an alphabetical list like that is stupid. This is the worst way to protet against fingerprint policy.

まさし said...

デビトさんは外国人裏ファイルを店頭販売した店に謝罪を求めて、事実関連する店は謝罪したから、きっとデビト氏も謝罪文の掲載するでしょ。
彼のこれからの活動が信頼できるか、どうかもそうしたことにかかってくるからね。

えさき said...

非常に残念ですね。
私は指紋押捺のことはよくわからないけど、指紋押捺には関係ない2チャンネルの嫌韓以下の憎しみにあふれるサイトでもって指紋押捺に抗議をするっていうのは筋が全然通らない。

ぷっ said...

このデビトさんってなにしている人?

中共の反日宣伝活動家?

誘致反対! said...

オリンピック東京誘致大はんた~~い!!
金の無駄遣いだ!

指紋押捺もっとやれば、オリンピック誘致反対運動も盛り上がてくれるってことか?

悪魔 said...

有道くん言っていることは賛成することもある。
しかし、彼の抗議方法の手管は最低だ。

都合の悪い事実隠す。
都合のいい事実にねつ造を加える。
憎しみを煽る。

絶対やっていはいけないことだ。

なかま said...

出人さんと
愉快な仲間たち=人種差別主義者
        嫌日厨

end of debitoism said...

「日本人」を均質なる集団として表象し、あらゆる問題を外国人VS日本人の対立図式(善悪二元論)で解釈しようとする傾向がこの方にはもともとありましたが、反差別主義者が差別主義者に転化するというよくあるパターンなんでしょう。なお彼の言動を全否定するつもりはありません。それなりに正しいことを言ってきたしやってきたことは認めます。その上で根本的に彼の運動スタイルは買えないし、結局、こういう結果になっちゃうのねという納得感を覚えます。アーメン。

裏ファイル said...

外国人犯罪裏ファイルに反対したやつらがデビトの悪行には眼をつむっているのには正直失望した。

もい said...

まあ、デビトさんのいうことはこれから信じられませんね。嘘や誇張や憎しみを支持するのですから。

いなかもん said...

なにこれ!!
ふざけるな!
日本を陵辱するのもいい加減にしろ!
これが人権活動家のやることか!
目的のためなら嘘でも憎しみを煽ることもありか!
いい加減にしろ!
自分は非難した同じ手法をとるとは最低だね。

ponta said...

For the record, I'll post the comment that was banned by Debito on his blog.


ponta Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
November 24th, 2007 at 3:45 am

correction

–YOU’RE RIGHT, YOU REALLY DON’T UNDERSTAND. SOMETIMES I REALLY MISS THE FACT THAT THERE IS A DEARTH OF IRONY IN THIS SOCIETY.

You’re right. Probably I don’t.
The next time I see the Japanese making up unfounded accusation of gaijin to counter the false accusation of Japan—and there are always wrong accusations against Japan and Japanese— I must say, regrettably, at least Arudou san approves it to let gaijin empathize with the Japanese for a change. To gaijin who complain of the unfounded accusation, “don’t fall into the victim complex all over again, don’t you miss the fact there is a dearth of irony in this world” might be a way to respond. That might be your way. But I’ll refuse it.
But thanks anyway, though I didn’t understand your logic, I understood the tactics you employ.

Nanporon said...

Did Debito ban the post!?
Holly Molly!
Your post is not a spam or troll.
Now I realize how dangerous to believe the man.
That's exactly what a dictator does.

Anonymous said...

最悪の外人が集まっているサイトじゃないですか?
みんなこんな外人ばかり?

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